Episode 162 – Talking about the Defense
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- Guys,
I listened to the debate on Leroy Harris and have to add my two cents. While I think it’s very possible Harris will start next year he has no leverage over the Titans in any way. I heard before last year the Titans plan was actually for Harris to take the LG spot and for Amano to slide to center and replace Mawae. I would add that when Harris played earlier this season he struggled at times and it was clear why he was not starting over the current starting 5. Harris is a solid back-up and like many other back-ups he’s overhyped and everyone thinks he should be starting. Munchack knows who to start in my opinion.
As for the leverage Leroy Harris might have. He has absolutely no leverage at all, zero. If he wanted to hold out from training camp the Titans could put him on the “did not report list” and not lose a roster spot, then fine him 15,000 a day until he shows up to camp. Considering Harris is not a highly paid player 15k might hurt, especially considering the players might get locked out in 2011 and not get paid. Assuming Harris went this path and stuck to it(basically impossible) he’d eventually lose a year of eligibility and be one more season further from being a free agent.His other option would be to report to camp and try and win a starting spot then upon seeing he wasn’t a starter leave camp. He’d be placed on the Reserve/Left Squad list. In this case the Titans could send him a 5 day letter informing him he had 5 days to report back to camp. If he failed to do so he’d be suspended for the entire season, not get paid and the Titans don’t have to count him on their 53 man roster and get his rights again the following season.
Having said all of that I think Harris could start next year depending on whether or not Mawae is signed again. He’s not about to hold out and lose money even if he doesn’t start he can’t afford it.
I just wanted to clear up the talk of this supposed leverage by Leroy Harris if he didn’t start next year.
Scotty
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To switch Kearse to a pass rush ing OLB you’d almost have to switch our defense to a 3-4. I tried to see how this would look with our season ending roster, Whatcha think
No change with the Safeties or CBs (although I’d hope Hood takes over for Harper.)
OLBs – Vanden Bosch and Ford Start on Left and Right rotate in Kearse, Hayes,…(Basically all the current DEs would have to stand up.)ILBs – Bulluck, and Tulloch Start (yes I’d move Bulluck inside for coverage and roaming ability and Thornton would be on the bench, Bulluck and/or Thornton would be the ILBs in obvious passing and multiple receiver sets.NT – T. Brown (hes not really big enough but we have no one who is, Marks is the biggest but I see him as a 3-4 DE)DEs – Marks and Jason Jones (big with enough speed to demand attention)We would have to find a true Nose Tackle (320-340 lbs) and possibly get rid of Vanden Bosch (look what happened to Kampman in GB) and Thornton.Frankie U
Ex-Titans news
- ex-RB Coach Earnest Byner is hired by the Jacksonville Jaguars
- Lawsuit by former Titans WR David Givens was thrown out of court
- Former LB Peter Sirmon has joined the staff of the Tennessee Vols as a graduate assistant
- woman who had portrait of McNair had to sue estate and is awarded $5k
- Kevin Dyson hired by Independence High School as AD
- Benji Olsen on local TV commercial
- 2 former Titans win Super Bowl rings
- Titans are 28-1 to win Super Bowl XLV
Player News
- Kyle Vanden Bosch is not expecting to return to the Titans
- Chris Johnson is already talking about needing more money
- Titans agree to terms with OL Eugene Amano on a 5 year contract
- Titans P Craig Hentrich retires after 17 years
- C Kevin Mawae will likely test the free agent market
- LB Keith Bullock is still waiting for a call from the Titans
- Titans sign LB Pago Togafau to a contract… sort of
- Mike Otto and Colin Allred agree to exclusive rights contracts
- Kevin Vickerson change agent
- Vincent Fuller has enrolled in business classes at Harvard
Non-Player News
- Super Bowl Trivia:
- There are roughly 300 million people in America. For the purposes of this discussion, we’ll assume that half of them are male.
- There are 1696 NFL players. Assuming that every American male has an equal chance of becoming an NFL player, the odds of an American male being an NFL player are roughly 88,443 to 1.
- Of the 150 million (assumed) males in America, about 25,000 of them have the first name “Pierre.” This means that the odds of being an American male named Pierre are about 6000 to 1. You’ll see where I’m going with this in a second if you don’t already.
- Thus, the odds of an American male being named Pierre and becoming an NFL player are 530,660,377 to 1 (over 530 million).
- Assuming every NFL team has equal chance to advance to the Super Bowl in any season, the odds of a team advancing to the Super Bowl are 32 to 1. This means that the odds of an American male named Pierre being a member of a Super Bowl-bound team are 16,981,056,000 to 1 (over 16 billion).
- In this year’s Super Bowl, there are TWO Pierres (RB Thomas of New Orleans and WR Garcon of the Colts). Following the rules of probability, the odds of the above happening twice in the same sample set are 288,356,262,875,136,000,000 to 1 (over 288 quintillion).
- I can’t even begin to calculate the likelihood of an American male being named Pierre, becoming an NFL player, advancing to the Super Bowl, and scoring an offensive touchdown, but as anyone who’s followed the Colts and Saints this season can tell you, that at least one of them will do so is not unlikely. If both do, know that you’re watching extreme statistical improbability in action. - Titans lose out on WR Matt Jones
- Pacman Jones doens’t get signed again
- Titans have probably lost out on WR Joshua Cribbs
Upcoming Schedule
- none
Stupid Questions of the Week
- Can the Titans defense rebound in 2010 if they lose Bullock, Kearse, Vanden Bosch, and Thornton?
Titans Defense
- DL
- Jay Moore – not familiar with him; he doesn’t even have a number; probably a practice squad player or victim of a rebuilt defense
- William Hayes – he’ll be back and be in the rotation
- Marcus Howard – not familiar with him; he doesn’t even have a number; probably a practice squad player or victim of a rebuilt defense
- Eric Bakhtiari – just signed last season (mid-season); will probably be the last man in the line
- Jacob Ford – he’ll be back and be in the rotation
- Kyle Vanden Bosch – gone; I don’t see him returning
- David Ball – he’ll be back and in the rotation
- Jevon Kearse – strangely enough, I think he’ll be back because this is his only place he still can be a hero
- Kareem Brown – depends on who is signed during the offseason
- Sen’Derrick Marks – he’ll be back and in the rotation
- Jovan Haye – he’ll be back and in the rotation
- Jason Jones – he’ll be back and in the rotation
- Tony Brown – he’ll be back and in the rotation
- Kevin Vickerson – depends on signings/draft
- LB
- Pago Togafau – just signed; probably on special teams
- Gerald McGrath – a possible starter; maybe a special teams player
- Mike Rivera – special teams player at best; might be cut depending on signings
- Stanford Keglar – special teams player; might be a surprise cut if he doesn’t improve
- Stephen Tulloch – he’ll be back and a starter if we don’t sign a replacement
- Colin Allred – special teams player; might be a casualty of a revamped defense
- Jaime Winborn – might be a surprise if he can show some flashes from the past
- David Thonton – depends on how he comes back from the injury
- Ken Amato – back as a long-snapper
- Keith Bullock – doesn’t look good, but there is still hope; I think he will not be back
- CB
- Cortland Finnegan – back as a starter
- Jason McCourty – probably back as a special teams player
- Rod Hood – back as a backup
- Ryan Mouton – back as a backup
- Nick Harper – probably back, but it depends on the draft and signings
- Jamar Love – 2009 rookie; might be a practice squad
- S
- Kevin Kaesviharn – back as special teams player
- Vincent Fuller – back as nickleback
- Nick Schommer – probably cut; has spent time on the practice squad; has been disappointing
- Michael Griffin – back as a starter; needs to have a much better year
- Donnie Nickey – will probably find his way to another team if offered, otherwise will be back on special teams
- Chris Hope – depends on his health, but probably back as a starter
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